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*mumakil
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*dol guldur
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Gondolin
Well, look at the Dol Guldur TB. Its plot was 160 blocks. 200 blocks is only slightly larger, but I'll admit that 300 is a lot. (Though you could technically argue that Geola's Tb, for example, still isn't nearly complete, and only fills up part of the DG plot.That'd be massive, and generally extremely hard to complete certainly in the given timeframe of Themebuilds. Something like "Gondolin Houses" could work well though
As for the rest of them they seem pretty reasonable suggestions
Well, look at the Dol Guldur TB. Its plot was 160 blocks. 200 blocks is only slightly larger, but I'll admit that 300 is a lot. (Though you could technically argue that Geola's Tb, for example, still isn't nearly complete, and only fills up part of the DG plot.
Yes, I agree with you on that, but my point was not on the canon size of the 2 locations. If I were to follow that, I'd be asking for a 600 or so block plot. I was instead trying to make the point that people still try to build large projects (and oftentimes do), and that 200 blocks for a plot is only slightly larger than 150.Dol Guldur is as mentioned in the Hobbit "A stronghold", and as we later learn, of Sauron. The name meant Hill of Sorcery. It was initially known as "Amon Lanc" which meant bald hill. Although a settlement of the elves, it was only ever temporary. Also, due to its geology and it's position in Mirkwood, I doubt it would've been able to support a great city.
On the other hand, Gondolin in my opinion is a large city. Similar in size to Linhir, Calembel and maybe Pelargir. It's hidden nature meant it could grow exponentially in size, until it's peak just before its discovery. It was described as "magnificent" in The Silmarillion, which connotes to grandeur, thus inferring a large size.
These 3 images help me to understand what Gondolin would have been like:
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The above is a coloured version of an original sketch by Tolkien of the city. This depicts it to be on a flat rock, as the name suggests (Hidden Rock)
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The above hear is an interpretation by Eric Faure-Brac. It shows what in my opinion, Gondolin would have looked like on the inside.
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Finally, the above here shows a coloured version of Karen Wynn-Forsted's Atlas of Middle Earth. It shows the structure of Gondolin internally.
In comparison, Gondolin would've been on the whole more large than Dol Guldur. Mainly because Dol Guldur was a castle and Gondolin was a city, but also because of reasons outlined above
You realise that 200 blocks equals a roughly 24 000 block increase in surface area compared to 150 blocks (in a square)?Yes, I agree with you on that, but my point was not on the canon size of the 2 locations. If I were to follow that, I'd be asking for a 600 or so block plot. I was instead trying to make the point that people still try to build large projects (and oftentimes do), and that 200 blocks for a plot is only slightly larger than 150.
It's a 17,500 blocks increase and not 24,000 blocks increase but still, that's a 78% increase in area from 150×150.You realise that 200 blocks equals a roughly 24 000 block increase in surface area compared to 150 blocks (in a square)?