3rd Public Meeting Roundup
Notes and Recording
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Assistant/Lead builder Rank
Description of the new ranks = BWOT’s idea to shift workload (which is too much for HB)
Many people were upset by this remark. Some still dislike the Assistant rank and Eriol said ranks are about tasks, not about their position in the MCME hierarchy. Assistants do basically the paperwork, more or less a secretary.
Some were a fan of the lead builders, because they
Some argued that staff should not be only for people that fall in the specific ranks, but should also be able to be for people that are trusted.
Eriol says staff =/= trusted, but it is required for the rank, thus task.
Some questioned why does can’t the Assistant rank be a badge and Assistants remain their existing ranks (Artist/Guide etc)
Minor topic Foreman VS Lead builder and staff?
Foremen should get staff for better communication.
The people voted against staff for Foremen, so staff are not Foremen. Also Foremen get assigned tasks through discord, so no need for staff. But some in the past the tasks for foremen have been few, so it might is needed.
Badges
Badges are good, yet WE+ and Voxel badges are not given out, because skill needed is too high.
There is no limit yet, so we need to have the skill required high, to make issues not happen.
Brushes back into WE- with minor constraints. Some asked why should we add them?
If people with WE- have to do things that can’t be trusted by designers they have no option left. Especially if you have specific ideas.
Conclusion badges should be edited slightly to be better able to fit with needs.
Summer Events
Nothing was discussed about this point.
Projects
DA is a dead project, which needs little progress to finish it (streets). Moria will have a meeting, which has had, and the rest about it in the meeting is outdated and lots of uncertainty. RP change is needed for Belfalas, so again outdated as the meeting was two weeks ago.
In general projects need more jobable things. Though Osgiliath update will probably remove the vacuum created by having a lot of jobs. Also we should not have too many projects going on, as that will make our progress slow, yet not too few, as people will get burned out/bored.
Next project is going to be Mordor, which is going to have a lot of jobable things as well.
Later in the future, will we do revamps or upgrades/nothing, most agreed that upgrades are the best. Pros and cons are in a post by NicTheFifth.
Roleplay Plugin and PvP server (TheFunnyFace)
Roleplay plugin is being worked on.
PVP server should be up and guide/foremen/staff should get staff on pvp server (staff only means you can run pvp)
Ping role on discord (barteldvn)
Idea: People can subscribe to this bot by typing !jobpings. From then every job will do a @jobpings and it’ll give all those people a notification.
Issue which was put forward is that new people have to subscribe, which they don’t know.
A possible solution to this is that people can explain this in jobs.
Conclusion is that it is a good idea, as people are too lazy to mute the channel.
Job revamps? (barteldvn)
Already discussed under Projects.
Get rid of the general channel for forum notifications on discord and replace it with a screenshot channel (Merlin)
There was a general consensus in not removing the Forum notifications channel and replace it.
Though having a screenshot channel would be preferable,with a few limitations. Firstly there to be only WIPs on the discord, the final versions should be posted on the forums. Secondly that there has to be no clutter, so only feedback, this would probably be best enforced by the Mediateam and possibly the enforcers. With those two limitations we probably can make sure that the channel will have its purpose and not be overcluttered, as happens with other channels.
Notes and Recording
Dropbox - 3rd Public Meeting.wav
Assistant/Lead builder Rank
Description of the new ranks = BWOT’s idea to shift workload (which is too much for HB)
Many people were upset by this remark. Some still dislike the Assistant rank and Eriol said ranks are about tasks, not about their position in the MCME hierarchy. Assistants do basically the paperwork, more or less a secretary.
Some were a fan of the lead builders, because they
Some argued that staff should not be only for people that fall in the specific ranks, but should also be able to be for people that are trusted.
Eriol says staff =/= trusted, but it is required for the rank, thus task.
Some questioned why does can’t the Assistant rank be a badge and Assistants remain their existing ranks (Artist/Guide etc)
Minor topic Foreman VS Lead builder and staff?
Foremen should get staff for better communication.
The people voted against staff for Foremen, so staff are not Foremen. Also Foremen get assigned tasks through discord, so no need for staff. But some in the past the tasks for foremen have been few, so it might is needed.
Badges
Badges are good, yet WE+ and Voxel badges are not given out, because skill needed is too high.
There is no limit yet, so we need to have the skill required high, to make issues not happen.
Brushes back into WE- with minor constraints. Some asked why should we add them?
If people with WE- have to do things that can’t be trusted by designers they have no option left. Especially if you have specific ideas.
Conclusion badges should be edited slightly to be better able to fit with needs.
Summer Events
Nothing was discussed about this point.
Projects
DA is a dead project, which needs little progress to finish it (streets). Moria will have a meeting, which has had, and the rest about it in the meeting is outdated and lots of uncertainty. RP change is needed for Belfalas, so again outdated as the meeting was two weeks ago.
In general projects need more jobable things. Though Osgiliath update will probably remove the vacuum created by having a lot of jobs. Also we should not have too many projects going on, as that will make our progress slow, yet not too few, as people will get burned out/bored.
Next project is going to be Mordor, which is going to have a lot of jobable things as well.
Later in the future, will we do revamps or upgrades/nothing, most agreed that upgrades are the best. Pros and cons are in a post by NicTheFifth.
Roleplay Plugin and PvP server (TheFunnyFace)
Roleplay plugin is being worked on.
PVP server should be up and guide/foremen/staff should get staff on pvp server (staff only means you can run pvp)
Ping role on discord (barteldvn)
Idea: People can subscribe to this bot by typing !jobpings. From then every job will do a @jobpings and it’ll give all those people a notification.
Issue which was put forward is that new people have to subscribe, which they don’t know.
A possible solution to this is that people can explain this in jobs.
Conclusion is that it is a good idea, as people are too lazy to mute the channel.
Job revamps? (barteldvn)
Already discussed under Projects.
Get rid of the general channel for forum notifications on discord and replace it with a screenshot channel (Merlin)
There was a general consensus in not removing the Forum notifications channel and replace it.
Though having a screenshot channel would be preferable,with a few limitations. Firstly there to be only WIPs on the discord, the final versions should be posted on the forums. Secondly that there has to be no clutter, so only feedback, this would probably be best enforced by the Mediateam and possibly the enforcers. With those two limitations we probably can make sure that the channel will have its purpose and not be overcluttered, as happens with other channels.
