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Up until they're taken by the wrights their path through the Downs is actually fairly well explained especially in terms of directions.Rytt, know this part if the books quote well, you know that and I've thought about this before but I've come to the conclusion that it's both an issue with scale and impossible to exactly replicate a vaguely described path. Very little of the fellowships path on the server if that is 100% accurate to the books and really it doesn't need to so long as you get to Mordor at the end it's fine.
Ok. I have no idea how to do the map thing.. unless... a screenshot of the dynmap might work...Changing just the footprints is not a big thing. It's very little work so it would not affect other projects.
I would suggest @ryttyr make a map where you want to place the footprints. Post it here so other can check and tell their opinions.
After some time for discussions and eventually improvements of the plan ask @Finrod_Amandil for his ok and there you go.
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I've drawn a map but I forgot to post it before going to bed lol. I'll do it tomorrow morning I guess.Yeah a map would be great, just screenshot dynmap and draw the route with paint... I'lle also tag @DynoDaring as he has also been working on the fellowship's path recently
Yes. That's one solution as well.I read the book chapter again and here are my thoughts:
My first thought is that this area really needs to be rebuild. The terrain is described with a lot of detail in the book, but our Barrow Downs are mainly vanilla terrain. Same for the mounds which are described as green hills on top of the downs. "and all those hills were crowned with green mounds". This too is very different at the server. But doing this would be quite a large project with a lot of terraforming. I want to do this at some point but not short-term for sure (I'd say when Mordor is finished)
Now about our plan:
- I agree with the place where you located the lunch break. The Hobbits wanted to avoid the Barrow Down as much as possible and Tom Bombadil adviced them to head north not east. So this places is much more reasonable than the standing stone at the current path far in the east.
- I don't agree about the place where Frodo fell off his pony. At noon they saw a gap between two steep hills at the northern end of a long valley and beyond the end of the Downs. When they awoke they tried to reach that place. Maybe the Hobbits already lost direction in the fog before they came to that place and went more east than north. For when they thought that they reached that place there were these two broken stones which were not at the gap when they watched out at noon.
Your place is at the top of a hill but Frodo started to cimb up a steep hill after he fell from his pony. Also there is not a gate of two stones but a circle of stone with a pillar in the middle. I would suggest to relocate the place a bit to the east in the valley between place 3 and 4 and a bit to the north.
- I like you place where Frodo was taken. The path leads there heading south as in the book and it's at a hilltop. My main problem is the long distance the barrow-wight carried the Hobbits to his mound. In the book there is a large mound at this hill where Frodo is taken and it is west of Frodo (something Tom Bombadil warned them of). Also the next day the Hobbits came to that gap with Tom Bombadil which they saw from the place of their lunch-break the day before (and the stones were gone again).
So my suggestion is to relocate the barrow where the Hobbits where kept. There is one at the east side of the hill where you marked the place 4. I don't see a problem to continue the footprints from there northwards to the Great East Road. There is even a gap in the wall as described in the book.
So what you propose is that they more or less take the path that I suggested but that the wright takes them to the barrow at the foot of the hill instead of the barrow the path currently leads to?No you misunderstood me. I want to redo Barrow Downs someday, yes.
But all I said about your plans is possible without rebuilding anything. Maybe we could add the two stones, but the barrow is already there. She map I posted is in my opinion the best and most accurate plan possible without changing terrain and builds.
Speaking of. I actually had some ideas of how to revamp Bombadil's house too after reading those chapters (though my ideas are just ideas for now. It would require a complete redo of both the house and some of the terrain around it). I like how his house is fairly well described yet there's still a lot of different ways to interpret it.*cough* You may need a new Tom Bombadil house I have one if you need it *cough*
Check it out in free build.
The only thing I can think of about the terrain is the hill behind the house should be bare stone.It would require a complete redo of both the house and some of the terrain around it)
And that there is a large, well maintained, grassy clearing infront of it bordered by low hedges (if I remember it all right).The only thing I can think of about the terrain is the hill behind the house should be bare stone.
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